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November 30, 2007
Princeton to Summerland or Midway
Hello, Dan It seems there may be (at least) 2 options of routes from Princeton:
a) Trans Canada Trail from Princeton to Link Lake to Osprey lake to Summerland and then down the highway to Penticton, Oliver, and south; OR
b) the old Vancouver, Victoria and Eastern railbed from Princeton to Oroville to Rock Creek and Midway
Do you know a contact for the conditions for cycling a fully loaded bike? The KVR site mentioned the conditions from Summerland to Link Lake were a "nightmare". Also, it would be nice to know about access (locked gates, etc) issues about the trail from Princeton to Midway. If you have any current information or know who else I could contact, that would be great, so I can try to plan. Thank you. Regards, Patti Kagawa,
October 31, 2007
Neil Humphrey firstname.lastname@example.org
Kettle Valley Cycling Yahoo Group
With the permission of the Langford's, I would like to invite one and all to a group I have started on Yahoo. I'm sure that the Langford's were beginning to wonder where I was, as they knew of the group, I hadn't been able to give it the time required. I now can. It is a Yahoo Group that will be dedicated to riding "touring" trails in Western Canada. Not just the KVR. Please stop by, add your two cents, leave some photos, reviews of where you stayed, anything that you care to share with others.
My wife and I have not had the pleasure of the KVR as yet but are planning a week next year for our anniversary. For selfish reasons, it would be great to see all of those that can, contribute their knowledge and experience of this, and other fine rides.
Here is the link.......... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/kettlevalleyrailway
Thanks and we look forward to hearing from you!
October 27, 2007
Dan, I am writing for my mother,Kaye Hunt, who lives on Whitehall Rd. in Grand Fork. A few days ago , while heading north on Whitehall Rd. she crosses the old railway grade or the now Rails to Trails path, narrowly missing a bicyclist, who does not stop, and is not aware of the car,or the crossing. She has lived at this location for the past 40 years and is very aware of the crossing. Now, for the second time she has come close to hitting someone darting onto the road . The first incident involved a jogger, the second a bicyclist, neither case involved contact. However, the trauma of almost killing someone still haunts her.
I, myself have contacted the Min. of Highways a few years ago about these crossing . I identified the hazards of these crossings and had no positive response from them. Nothing was ever done. Signage on the roadway for the travelling public and signage on the grade would help make the hazard more evident to both the motorist and grade user. Also, crossing hashmarks, would further identify the area of the imminent hazard. Being a user of the grade myself , acute attention can sometimes be distracted, due to the mostly uninterupted travel path, advance signage would certainly help make the user more aware of potential hazards. Thankyou for listening and look forward to hearing from you, sincerly, Earl Hunt
October 16, 2007
KVR: Rock Creek to Hope
Below are details of our 6 day trip from Rock Creek to Hope; total distance 485 km (including the odd detour). The focus is on trail conditions, as this was highly variable, and small differences could be noticed on my hybrid. The trip was from September 23rd to 29th 2007 inclusive, and was cool and mostly dry, with frost overnight, under clear skies, with rain on the penultimate day, and freezing rain over the Coquihalla summit.
There had been a few days of rain before the 23rd, so this may have improved the condition of some soft sections. Rob, Seamus and Ian
Day 1: Rock Creek to Lakevale (74 km)
Good hardpack surface with some fairly loose, sandy sections from Kettle Valley Provincial Park campground to Beaverdell, plus a stretch of road around Rhone. Good surface from Beaverdell to Lakevale Station, with the most scenic stretch being the loop up and back down Wilkinson Creek. There is some minor washboard within a couple of kilometers of Arlington Lakes. Nice, lakeside Forest Service campground; no piped water.
Day 2: Lakevale (Arlington Lakes) to Chute Lake (82 km)
Steady grade and good, hardpack surface from Arlington Lakes to Hydraulic Lake, with minor washboard either side of Hydraulic Lake. Very good, stable surface in the region of Myra Canyon, as far as the Bellevue trestle. Poor, loose washboard from Bellevue to Chute Lake (many motorized vehicles). The current Myra Canyon bypass (15 km) is OK in the dry, but is mostly hard packed mud, so may be tricky in the wet: a lot of ups and downs up to at least 6% grade, a few short, loose, gravelly sections and one very rough descent from the logging road.
Day 3: Chute Lake to Crump
Long downhill (approx 25km) from Chute Lake to Naramata is loose in places, with some washboard. Improves after the tunnel, and then much better from Naramata; hard packed gravel and then asphalt in Penticton. Gradual packed sand/gravel incline up to Summerland is a nice surface with great views of the lake. In Summerland, the road detour around the active railway is very rollercoaster, and rejoins the KVR trail at Faulder. For a few kilometers, the trail runs alongside the railway. Immediately there is about 3 km of truly dreadful, newly laid loose gravel, which provides almost no traction, followed by a small stretch of decent hard pack, and then 5 to 6 km of very loose sand, on a fairly steep grade all the way to Crump. This section is very hard going. Possible bypass of this section on Hwy 40 from Faulder to Trout Creek?
Day 4: Crump to Princeton (81 km)
Good/variable surface on the ascent until just before the trail joins the road at Thirsk Lake. The rail grade is then very loose and sandy for another 30 km approx, improving to hard packed surface at around Erris Tunnel. The payback is an easy descent on a firm surface, with a limited amount of loose rock, through Jura, and all the way to Princeton.Possible detour option is Hwy 40 from Bankeir to Jura, rejoining the trail just past the Jura gazebo. The Princeton Municipal Campground (1.5 km West on Hwy 3) is well priced ($17), conveniently located between the sawmill and the highway, and has showers.
Day 5: Princeton to Brodie (67 km)
Generally good, hard packed surface until Coalmont, with numerous small rockfalls to negotiate along the Tulameen river valley. Becomes very loose and sandy from Coalmont until just past Otter Lake, and then becomes decent hardpack and a steady uphill grade through farmland in the river valley. The right of way becomes nasty washboard approximately 10 km before Brookmere, improving to hard packed narrow cart tracks on the descent from Brookmere to Brodie. Finally, some short (<50m) but rough bypass trails need to be negotiated to reach Brodie station, and the backcountry campground between the Coquihalla Highway and the river.
Day 6: Brodie to Hope (85 km approx)
Good surface for approx 6 km on a logging road until the first washout. Note: the designated bypass trail around the KVR washout is also washed out now, and is loose, dangerous and almost impassable (may well be completely gone by Spring 2008). The lower bypass looked easier, but is on loose material close to the river. The second trail washout on this stretch (800 m further on) is passable on sandy scree below the original trail, but this is also loose, unstable material. Joined the Coquihalla Highway for a 20 km ascent to the Coquihalla summit, then a steep downhill to Aurum. Picked up a 5 km section of the trail from Aurum (accessed up a steep logging road) back to the highway. This section is a mix of logging access roads and narrow trails. The trail was firm with some muddy sections and rockfall and continues to the east side of the highway. We continued down the highway to Othello road to Coquihalla Canyon Provincial Park. The trail from Othello to Hope is well developed and firm.
General comments: This was tough on a hybrid with 700C 38 tires (Vittoria Adventure Comfort). Though I had only one puncture in 6 days, and the tires held out well, the traction was insufficient for soft sections. Knobbly tires are needed for the soft sections. Water is scarce in some sections. Bring a water purifier/filter, and keep stocked up.Much of the camping is at quite high elevation (>1100 metres). Dress warmly at night.
September 24, 2007
Dan, two weeks ago a group of 6 cyclists’ road into Beaverdell to stay at the Beverdell Hotel. I had made reservations a couple of months prior and spoke directly to Ty. They were to provide lodging and meals. When we arrived we were surprised to find the Hotel closed. We spoke to some locals and they indicated that Ty opens when he feels like it. The Tamarack Inn across the street was full so they suggested Zacks. We stayed there and ate at the Tamarack. We heard stories of families arriving in town late in the evening expecting to stay at the Beverdell Hotel to find it closed. Maybe in you updates you could plug Zacks and the Tamarack and remove the Beverdell Hotel. Just a thought. Bruce
September 16, 2007
Beverdell Hotel on the KVR
Our group of 9 adults traveled the KVR from Penticton to Beverdell and back, September 9-14. Ages varied from 43 to 68
Day 1 - The route from Penticton to Chute Lake Resort is sandy and a tough grind up the grade. Make sure you stop in at Chute Lake Resort (250-493-3535) and have a piece of Doreen’s peach pie.
Day 2- The ride from Chute to Idabel Lake Resort was long and hard as we had to take the by-pass around Myra Canyon. The by-pass is a combination of Forest Service Road and a cut off. Watch for the signs, some can be missed if you are not paying attention. The accommodations at Idabel Lake Resort (250-765-9511) were fantastic. Note there are no services, so take your own food. We arranged a caterer (Mary 250-765-3602) to come and cook for us on the two nights we were there. The food was fantastic!
Day 3- We continued on to Beverdell. When we arrived we found the Beverdell Hotel was closed. We were shocked to find out the new owner of the Beverdell Hotel is a flake and opens when he feels like it. I had made reservations in March and secured it with Visa. The town’s people came together and recommended “Zacks” just around the corner from the Beverdell Hotel. We ate at the Tamarack. The Tamarack Inn was full and did not have room for us but they were willing to set up mattresses in the bar for us if we could not find accommodations. Great and friendly people!
Day 4- Back to Idabel Lake Resort, back to comfort and a great meal. We went canoeing; I wish I brought my telescoping fishing rod, as the fish were jumping. This was a turning point for 5 of our group as they were not willing to return to Cute Lake via the by-pass. We called Monashee Adventure Tours (1-888-762-9253) and they picked the group of 5 and their bike. It was a rough and bumpy ride back to Chute Lake via the van. The rest of us took the by-pass and met up with the group at Chute Lake.
Day 5 - After another great meal and sleep we headed down to Penticton. The trail is sandy and you have to be careful going through the soft sand. I hope they ban all vehicle traffic on the Kettle Valley Rail Road trails. Horses, all terrain vehicles and cars are churning up the trail. We are looking forward to the next time when we can go over the rebuilt trestles.
September 15, 2007
Hi Dan, How can we point out our new bb&b on your website :
We are very close to KVR and MYRA CANYON.
Check our website, if you like.
Have a great weekend, Joerg
Yvonne Burgin and Joerg Eichhorn
· bed, bale & breakfast
4675 June Springs Road
Kelowna, BC, V1W 4C8
1-250-764-9731 Cell 1-250-317-8005
September 11, 2007
A group of 7 of us biked from Brodie to the first crossing of the Coldwater River (about 40k from Brookmere). I was distressed at how the trail is deteriorating. This was my 3rd trip in 5 years. The second trip there was evidence that a local group had tried to cross the washout at 29 k ( the washout referred to in your book). Unfortunately, the attempt had failed and the crossing over the slide was treacherous and very difficult. I hope that the local group will continue to try to keep the trail up. Maybe the trans Canada trail people need to help. The kvr is a great trail and a wonderful historical trail. It needs all our support and hopefully the federal government will support the whole kvr and get all involved to build as good a trail the "Confederation Trail" in PEI. That trail is in unbelievable condition but the terrain pales to the kvr. Hopefully the Myra canyon initiative will be only a first step. Please feel free to forward this letter to anyone who will support the kvr including the merritt area. Thanks for reading Ken Walker
KVR - Penticton to Castlegar
The wife and I pedalled from Penticton to Castlegar from May 24 to May 31 2007. Absolutely one of the best vacations we have ever enjoyed. In our “fit fifties,” we decided to book B&Bs along the way. Our stops:
Chute Lake Chute Lake Resort, 250-493-3535, ask Gary and Doreen about their experience with the 2003 wildfire. Great tales! Hydraulic Lake Louise Middlemiss at Idabel Lake, email@example.com, 250-484-5490, about 10 km off the trail, but great service, great food. Beaverdell Tamarack Lodge, 250-484-5490, where Monique and husband Rosie can share some incredible stories. Rock Creek Grouse Ridge B&B, 250-446-2890, Carol and Wilf at beautiful site near Johnstone Creek, great people, great food, and you have to meet dog Nook and cat Bubba. Grand Forks River Bend B&B, 250-442-5171, Susan on 19th Ave. Christina Lake Brio B&B, 250-447-6393, where Joan offers a cozy cabin.
Heading east from Christina Lake, an unofficial sign at the trail kiosk said “Trail closed, Fife to Ferron” for logging, but we went anyway and saw no trucks. Also, some kind souls built a bypass around the washout east of Lafferty (about 19 trail kms north and east from Christina Lake). Check with the Wild Ways adventure shop in Cristina Lake 250.447.6561, firstname.lastname@example.org, for the latest news on access. We found two great places for milk shakes along the way The Copper Eagle Deli in Greenwood, and the Great Canadian Ice Creamery in Christina Lake. Next trip, we will also try to spend a Saturday evening in Penticton for music night at the Dream Café (check www.thedreamcafe.ca for entertainment schedule).
We returned our bikes to Penticton by renting a one-way UHaul, but Wilf and Carol at the Grouse Ridge B&B in Rock Creek say they will transport people or vehicles to help KVR cyclers.
June 10, 2007
Midway to Penticton
We just finished the KVT from Midway to Penticton and my comments are: would start at Rock Creek instead of Midway as that 20K is mostly bumpy farmers field. The 12K of logging road just before Beaverdell is wash board, and the detour around the trestles was very rough for me but I am in my late 50s so other may find it easier. 2 of us found the trail long and boring, expected a lot more scenery. Louise at Idabel Lake is fantastic and helped us when one of our bikers hurt her knee and needed to be driven out. We also thought Chute Lake pricey for the accommodations especially having to leave the main building to use the washrooms and showers.
June 6, 2007
Greg & Marietta Egan email@example.com
We are a B&B located near the rail trail
Hello, Our website is www.hitchingpostbandb.com and we are wondering if you would be interested in promoting our little resort on this site. We really do have a beautiful spot off the trail up in the Joe Rich valley . Our acreage is along the north side of the Mission creek and the west side of Cardinal creek . We have kitchenettes in both our log cottages and we have awesome camp site settings . Our BBQ is always available to our guests . We would have to discuss the access to our place from up on the rail trail as people would have to cross the Mission creek or leave the trail and bike highway33 to our place which , from McCullough lake would be mostly downhill to Peregrine road . Otherwise it may be an idea to place log signs along the trail from McCullough road down into the Mission valley and over to us . Thank you for your time and look forward to your reply . Sincerely Greg Egan
June 6, 2007
Oliver to Okanagan Falls
Some friends last week tried to reach Oliver from Okanagan Falls via the KVR railbed trail ( as I did last spring) but were blocked by a landslide and severely overgrown trail sections south of OK Falls. They returned the worse for wear with cuts and scrapes from hidden potholes and rocks in the heavy overgrowth and the slide area. FYI !!
June 5, 2007
Riding the KVR
Hi Dan I took 50 students to bicycle the KVR between Osprey Lake and Brookmere last weekend, and was very disappointed by the soft trails. The students had to work much harder to complete the route and worked hard for very little gain. Two weeks before the trip, a few teachers and myself rode the same route to check out the conditions, and, if we had more time, we would have chosen a different route that was more enjoyable for 11-13 year olds. As we hope to plan more trips in the future, do you know if there are other parts of the KVR that are more enjoyable to ride? Or is this deterioration of the trail an unpleasant but common experience? Thanks Cynthia
June 26, 2007
Re: Riding the KVR
Hi Cynthia, Dry weather and ATVs can soften up the rail bed. You may have just hit a bad combination of the two. Hopefully something will get done about the ATVs and that will help a lot. Rain can harden up the surface. Also those sections of the rail bed on east facing slopes will be much firmer then the west facing sides. My best rides have been after a prolonged period of rain. Hopefully your next rides will be better. Dan
May 18, 2007
Myra Canyon Trestle Restoration Society http://www.myratrestles.com/newsandevents.php
Three more trestles have now been completed – Trestles 11, 10 and 9 are now complete. The contract has been let for trestles 8 and 7, to be completed late this year Public access is permitted from the Myra parking lot trailhead through to the first tunnel. Although the next three trestles are rebuilt, the movement of machinery over them and the assembling of materials in the vicinity, makes it unsafe for the public. On the Ruth side of the canyon (Little White Road), trestle 4 is still under construction and completion is scheduled for September. When it is complete, we can rebuild the small trestle 5 and repair the large steel trestle 6. Public access on this side is still from the trailhead at Ruth station to just beyond trestle 2 where the trestle 4 contractor has his gate. We are hopeful that all the trestles will be complete by the end of 2007. It will then be necessary to resurface the trail and to replace amenities lost in the fire. So the target is to have the trail completely open sometime in the spring or early summer of 2008.
May 10, 2007
Copper mnt spur update
Copper mountain has resumed major strip mining operations. Therefore, access to the KVR from Wolf road or Allenby road is no longer permitted. The roads are being monitored.
May 3, 2007
Status of trestle replacement
In the Summer of 2006 we cycled what sections we could, of the KVR (Myra Canyon, Chute Lake areas) skirting areas that were closed for construction. We are eagerly anticipating when we will have the opportunity to go through all the tunnels and trestles in the Myra Canyon section and be able to do a more complete ride. What is the progress on the trestle replacements? and is the target date still Fall 2007 for completion of repairs?
May 3, 2007
Nelson & Fort Sheppard Railway
Their is no access from Nelson at Elwyn Road (km 42) for the Nelson to Salmo section. The town of Nelson is installing water mains and the trail is closed. The trail from Elwyn to Troup is open.
April 30, 2007
Osprey Lake Retreat
Hey Dan, My name is Bruce Merit, I own and operate a B&B on the KVR at Osprey Lake. Previously the B&B was called Osprey Lake Lodge and was kind of run down but now it’s a real beauty and even run by a bike rider too! So just want to make the Osprey Lake Retreat available to you and let you know about it. Please check out my web site below and hope to hear from you if you have any questions.
Adventures ‘n’ Relaxation
Princeton, B.C., V0X-1W0
April 30, 2007
G Bucci firstname.lastname@example.org
Cycling Kettle Valley
Hey we are planning on coming out to cycle a portion of the trail, more specifically the C & W trail between Catlegar and Midway, next month and we are wondering if the trestles were affected by the fires of the last few years or not. We may alternately try the trail between Nakusp and Slocan. We are planning a four-day ride out and back, and would like to know which way is up- or down-hill. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
April 18, 2007
ZACKS ROOMS and CAMPING in Beaverdell B.C.
We have 4 clean rooms with a kitchen available,plenty of camping area with clean showers included,we also have been working on a old rustic log building to include rooms and much more.Contact @ email@example.com or Ph. 1-250-484-5532
April 16, 2007
Joanne Franks firstname.lastname@example.org
We want to cycle the KVR from Myra Canyon (Kelowna) to Penticton in one day - next week (middle April 2007). Is it open? Are the trestles restored? Is this a one day trip? I bought the book and it's great, but it was printed prior to the fire etc... Thanks...
April 12, 2007
Calvin M Doyle email@example.com
Like a lot of people out there, I'm interested in riding the rails and I'm interested in the progress of the Myra Canyon Trestles that were burnt in 2003. I searched the web and found two web sites that had some updated info on the construction. www.kelownabc.com and www.myratrestles.com Hopefully we will get some more updated information in this area.
March 25, 2007
Ludwig Beil firstname.lastname@example.org
message for Margit-Germany 26.feb 2007 Hy
We live in Germany and made the KVR some years ago on a five week trip with a tandem from Vancouver to Edmonton. So if you like you can give our email address to Margit Lu
March 25, 2007
the trail copyright email@example.com
An Afternoon in Princeton
and tonight i will paint you with red ochre, ravish you wildly under the moon
their laugher gallops the length of the thousand foot tunnel they walk through, and returns
an echo, marbled with voices of those who'd passed through before them.
they walk hand in hand, silently spending hidden gold that baths in the tulameen
lies naked on the beach revealing its wealth to strangers. graffiti greets them
with profanity as they cross the old railway bridge/ modern day pictography.
a shrine for a boy named tanner lies just off the tracks/ three photographs
two poems and an unopened bottle of bud-- he was fourteen. they watch for him
out of their eyes corners/ in the braches of pines, under the waters surface.
as they near the cliffs, shrill cries of red tailed hawks soar over distant tribal chants
of the silmilkameen--ancient warriors with painted faces who left footprints, cast shadows
ground stones from this place. a half eaten deer lies on the rocks, skeleton exposed.
their hands stained red/ weighted with pieces of history, they retrace their steps
through a tunnel that divides two rivers,
over land that whispers say the names
March 22, 2007
Catherine O'Connor Morris firstname.lastname@example.org
We are looking to take a short bicycle trip throught part of the Kettle Valley and wondered if we would be ok riding Hybrids. Can someone please let us know. We are looking to ride from Coalmont to Hope to "test" the KVR.
March 15, 2007
BB&B on KVRT
Hi Dan This season we are going to open our BB&B in Kelowna, close to the Kettle Valley Railway Trail (a short 2.5 mile downhill ride on the Little White Forestry Road). Our property boarders Myra-Bellevue Provincial Park and is a serene location with a gorgeous view. We will have space enough for tents as well. And after breakfast, we can bring the guests back to the KVRT. Could this be interesting for you guys?
It’ll be great, if you can link our website on http://www.planet.eon.net/~dan/other.html.
We are looking forward to hearing from you.
Best regards Joerg Eichhorn (Our website works only with IE; we work on a better version)
4675 June Springs Road
phone (250) 764-9731
cell (250) 317-1660
March 13, 2007
KVR in 1947
Hi Dan: A year before you were born, I took the KVR in 1947 from Trail to Chiliwack to attend summer army camp as a high school cadet. It was an overnight trip and I was 12 years old and really didn’t see or think much about the railroad other than we had no bunks or suitable food. Would I have gone over the Myra Trestles, Coquihalla Pass and through the Quintet Tunnels? I’m reading your book and think McCulloch was a terrific engineer but wonder, when everything is said and done, whether his sacrifice was worth it. I understand he’s buried near one of the new trestles. Having grown up in Rossland and knowing the gold mines there and the silver mines in Nelson were finished in the early 1900s, with Kimberly’s Sullivan Mine much later and not a part of the operation, was the KVR really profitable? I’ve thrice travelled to Grand Forks to bike up to the first tunnels and even Phoenix, and hope to also bike from Castlegar to GF over the pass. All the mtn. cuts around GF are intriguing but I doubt if the non-KVR ones are bikable. Best, Bryan Gordon.
March 6, 2007
Simone Hambly Simone.email@example.com
Cycling KVR with a family
Hello. We are looking for a section to cycle with a 6 and 3 year old. The 6 year old is on a bike buddy with her Dad and the 3 year old is pulled in a Chariot by me (Mom). Last year we cycled the Gulf Islands and things went great! Any recommendations for sections to do or suggestions? I have never been to KVR before. Thanks!
March 6, 2007
Hi Everyone.We're thinking of biking the Penticton to Midway section this April or May (before the long weekend). Is it possible to do this at this time of year? (weatherwise, snow?) and, regarding the Myra Canyon area -- on the website it says that the 10 destroyed trestles were expected to be complete in fall 2006. Did this happen Thanks for the info
March 5, 2007
I've posted a couple of videos of cycling the Kettle Valley Railway on YouTube. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=dwodchis and you'll find some photos in the Canada Gallery at www.oneworldphotography.com
I hear from a person who lives in Midway that the Mile 0 museum has been partially converted into a hostel for cyclists starting the KVR, but I haven't seen confirmation on a website for booking.
March 4, 2007
Phyl Schepens www.delrayb-b.com
del Ray b&b
Dan, I have been on your website several times since I first discovered it. Awesome site with so much useful information. I first started reading your site because my grandfather worked the kvr. My mother was born in Ruth BC and raised in Jura. Then I found that your site has been a good resource when my guests want detailed information about cycling the kvr trail. I always refer them to your book.
The second reason for this email is to ask if you would please add our new B&B to your list of accommodations along the trail. The del Ray b&b is 1.5 kms north of the junction of Hwy 97 & and Hwy 3. We are halfway ( less than a minute by bike ) between the highway and where the old kvr rails lay beside the lake, on 122nd Ave. Our website is www.delrayb-b.com Thank you for your time and have a nice day. Phyl Schepens
March 3, 2007
Bruce W McLaughlin firstname.lastname@example.org
Steve Webb Coquihalla February 7, 2007
OK......I'm getting impatient.....any bets on when the Coquihalla will be ride-do-able. Anyone checked it out yet?
I will assume you are refering to the KVR starting at Portia? Last year I was up in April and the snow on the road stopped me at 12 km, I tried again a couple of weeks later and got as far as 18km where again there was snow on the road ( 20 cm makes it impassable) although the woods were completely clear and growing.This year with the steady snowfall I would assume that the road won't be open til late April / early May. I find this section the most enjoyable and reasonable road conditions , however the trail through the woods is getting a bit ragged from traffic in spots.
March 1, 2007
Planning a trip
Hi Dan and Sandra, I recently picked up a copy of your book (3rd edition) and let me thank you for getting my husband and I pumped to actually do a bike trip. We have been talking about doing one for a few years but have never been able to commit or decide where. Your book (and therefore you guys) has helped us make the decision. A few quick questions for you to help with our plans. Have the trestles that were burned in the 2003 fire been repaired? To what extent? Do you have any personal favourite spots along the Carmi Subdivision route?Favourite time of year? Our tentative plan is Midway to Beaverdell day one Beaverdell to McCulloch Lake day 2 to Chute lake day3 to Penticton day 4 We are in fairly decent physical shape - do you think that this is a realistic plan? Thank you so much for your book, your time and your wealth of knowledge. Take Care Sharon
February 26, 2007
Some questions around KVR
Hi Dan and Sandra, - I hope that I got your email right…- As the last edition of your trailbook is already some years old, I wonder if you could answer some of my questions related to that wonderful railtrail. I come from Germany and me and my husband are planning to do the tour this year. We are kind of uncertain about the question whether the quality and the surface of the track has been further improved during the last couple of years: In your book some of the photos really look like bad roads. As we are planning to cycle with full equipment it won't be a problem to overcome such sections as long as they are not too long. Could you give me some feedback on that or let me know where I can get such updated information. Another concern is the question on how to get to the trailhead in Castlegar. Do you know if there is any other chance to go there - carrying our two bikes and all bags - than taking the plane? And the last question: Of course you have no idea of who we are so it is difficult to give a general answer: Do you think that the trail can be done by "normally" trained people or is it really hard? On a good surface a 80 - 90 km day trip with full baggage is not a problem for us but again we are not sure how much power the gravel surface will cost us. I would be very thankful to get your feedback. If there is anything else you think would be of interest for us I would appreciate your input a lot! Many thanks in advance and very warm regards to Canada, Margit from Frankfurt / Germany
February 12, 2007
Summerland ATV Jamboree free-for-all August 2007
if you're planning to peacefully cycle or hike, or even ride a horse along the KVR in August 2007, you might want to make different plans ... (8and tell the BC gov't about it). Apparently, the local Summerland ATV Jamboree - a group of hundreds of atv'ers plan to camp up in the rodeo grounds (near the KVR train station) and go for it from there. The local gov't is convinced that this fuel-burning, polluting "sport" event is a good thing for the town's economy. Guess they haven't checked out the latest popular trends in federal gov't programs lately. http://satv.ca/Jamboree.htm
February 7, 2007
OK......I'm getting impatient.....any bets on when the Coquihalla will be ride-do-able. Anyone checked it out yet? email@example.com Oh, and what shall we do with our 1st and 2nd editions? Steve Webb
January 27, 2007
Accommodation near Brookmere
A group of eight or nine will possibly be cycling through Brookmere this summer and we're looking for accusation other than camping, i.e.. lodge, cabins or B&B. If anyone has info that could help us out it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Luker
January 21, 2007
Danielle Gray firstname.lastname@example.org
Hello out there! I am looking for information from anyone who has recently cycled the Merritt Subdivision in the past few years. I am hoping to travel from Brookmere to Merritt and from Merritt to Spences Bridge in August 2007. I am curious to know about getting permission from the various bands to cross the reserves along the Coldwater and Nicola Rivers- what it entails, how far ahead I should enquire and so on. I travelled from Princeton to Hope in 2004 and from Rock Creek to Penticton in 2005 and this past summer we cycled from Summerland to Coalmont--really enjoying trail use and greatly appreciate your website and guidebook! Thank you very much, looking forward to hearing from anyone Danielle
January 9, 2007
Danielle Gray email@example.com
Merritt Subdivision -NK&S
Hello! Has anyone done the Merrit Subdivision lately? We did the Princeton-Hope a few years ago, and the downhill from Brookmere was great! I am curious about detouring the washout and getting permission to travese the Coldwater IR. We are hoping to go from Brookmere to Merritt and then down to Spence's Bridge on the NK&S. Anyone out there tried these routes lately? Anyone get permission from the various bands on crossing their right of way? If so, how far in advance should I arrange? I appreciate any info. Hoping to be on the trails this August. Thank you!
January 3, 2007
Chris Babcock firstname.lastname@example.org
Duration of trip
Happy New Year. My brother and I are planning to do a bike trip from Hope to Castlegar on the KVR. I've bought the book and we're getting prepared. However, I would like to ask anyone who has done this...how long did it take or how much time would you allot to do this trip? Thank you. Chris Babcock
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